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Provident Trust Boosts Trust Assets to $3 Billion
Posted by Scott Martin in Headlines on December 20, 2011
Everyone in the industry is chasing all the AUM they can find, but the “secret recipe” for converting those paper assets into actual fee-bearing accounts has been elusive for giants and independents alike. On the other hand, Las Vegas-based Provident Trust has prospects calling them out of the blue to sign up.
When we checked in with Provident CEO Theresa Fette back in February, she’d taken her start-up from zero to $1 billion in assets and was aggressively courting advisors to partner up with and grow alongside.
It evidently worked, because 10 months later, Provident is signing the paperwork to triple its clientele and assets under administration, leaving it with 30,000 accounts and a hefty $3 billion on its platform.
“They’ve been coming to us,” Fette says. “We haven’t had to chase them.”
Another account — this one to serve as administrator for a new pooled investment product — adds $100 million in icing to the cake, and Fette tells me the pipeline is full of looming deals that she can’t talk about yet.
She attributes the extremely positive word of mouth to the firm’s independent reputation. Unlike captive trust departments eager to refer business to affiliated wealth managers, Provident exists solely to provide administration and custody.
The fact that the firm is so accommodating to alternative assets doesn’t hurt either.
Provident earned its stripes in the alternative asset world as a custodian for self-directed IRAs, which often hold wealth that’s a little more exotic than the conventional stocks, bonds and cash that every vendor can support.
Real estate, gold and even life insurance settlements: as a recent report from industry research firm Cogent indicates, even in the button-down wirehouses, 40% of advisors now build portfolios that incorporate at least one “alternative” asset class.
“Many major players are looking for a place to custody their alternatives,” Fette notes. “That’s what Provident specializes in, and that’s another reason people are coming to us.”
With all that growth on the table, Fette has had to staff up fast with trust officers and other support personnel just to keep up. She says she’s doubled her Nevada operation and is keeping her Boston office full as well.
Scott Martin, senior editor, The Trust Advisor Blog.
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Provident Trust Launches Campaign to Help Advisors Get Smarter, Wealthier
Posted by Scott Martin in News on February 12, 2011
CEO says the “Professional Advisors Alliance” creates a pathway to provide RIAs, estate planners, CPAs and others everything they need to sell, support and profit from trust relationships. The Nevada-based trust company says advisors can sample support with a “free guide” at www.providentfreereport.com.
Provident Trust Group, the fast-tracked trust provider that was the focus of our rags to riches story last year, intends to redefine the way advisors handle trust business going forward.
“Advisors have been given the short end of the stick when it comes to hand-holding lucrative client relationships.” says Theresa Fette, Provident’s co-founder and CEO.
The near $1 billion Las Vegas-based powerhouse sees advisors and estate planners as the key to growing itself and along with it, the advisors’ business as well.
Its latest strategic marketing campaign is stunning in its outside-the-box audacity.
“The state of the art in the industry right now seems to be reassuring advisors, accountants and lawyers who work with high-net-worth clients that the trust company is not going to actively compete against the advisor,” Fette added.
A full platform for “trust advisor” support
To achieve this goal, Provident is reaching out with a wide range of issue-oriented, product-agnostic educational materials, white-label marketing support and even consulting fees for advisors who help their clients move their money into the company’s trust vehicles.
The fee proposition in itself represents a quantum leap forward for an industry that is still coming to terms with the fee-splitting aspects of directed trust arrangements.
While Provident does embrace directed trusts, in which outside advisors can go on investing their clients’ wealth — and booking the management fees — even after it is granted to a trust, the consulting fee gives advisors a way to go beyond simply protecting their existing business.
In fact, creating an incentive for recommending various forms of trust can make “trust advisor” a separate profit center for advisors who previously relied on retirement planning, investment selection or some other specialty to pay the rent.
“This provides them with a way to justify the time and expertise they put into helping their best clients set up trusts and capture recurring revenue as well,” Fette explains.
Naturally, Provident reaps its own rewards in the form of administration and custody fees, as well as the sheer economies of scale that increased market share is already creating.
Back in September, the company only had $750 million in custody across maybe 10,000 accounts.
Now, Fette tells us Provident has captured another 2,000 accounts and another $75 million, which translates into annualized growth of about 20%.
Compare that to what Bernard Garbo at Trust Updates has determined is an 8% average growth rate for trust companies in this size bracket, and the success story becomes crystal clear.
Business development through private label reports
Along with Jason Helquist, the company’s co-founder and chief compliance officer, Fette is devoted to the idea that the more an advisor knows — especially about a complex field like trusts — the better equipped he or she will be to turn it into a profitable business.
“We believe very strongly that business development is rooted in education,” Fette says.
“Based on a webinar we did recently, one referring advisor was able to take a product idea using 401(k)s and alternative investments and turn it in $25 million in AUM,” she adds.
Provident’s educational support also plays into this theme as well.
The first reports include “The Extended Bush Tax Cuts in Plain English,” which lays out the impact of the 2011 tax overhaul on investors and small business owners. (Click HERE to receive it.)
Provident retained San Francisco based, Financial Marketing Associates to help develop its marketing strategy, produce reports and launch an email marketing campaign to trust firms, estate planners, financial advisors, life insurance agents and FINRA broker-dealers.
The first report and others on asset protection trusts and directed trusts can be branded to include the advisor’s name on the cover and content they may contribute.
Future publications in the series will focus on tax planning and other topics.
The goal here is not to sell Provident’s products, but to expand the pool of professional advisors out there who can recognize when it might be appropriate to suggest that a client investigate a trust.
As the provider of all this information, Provident is likely to be the first company that advisors call when and if they do need help setting up a trust for a client.
That’s fine with Fette, but it’s not the immediate goal, she says.
“These are product-neutral. Of course we can help with the implementation, but they’re really about improving the level of practice out there to everyone’s benefit,” she explains.
“Some practitioners use old and cold law and that’s ultimately unfortunate for their client.”
More progress down the road
Provident has lined up brochures and other client-oriented marketing materials along with a trust savvy sales team to support the advisor. The strategy parallels the role of a traditional mutual fund or direct participation program wholesaler, but in the trust space.
Like a wholesaler, Provident aims to teach its affiliates — members of what Fette calls the Professional Advisor Alliance Program — how to sell trusts to clients who could benefit from them.
The clients win because they get the benefit of the finest estate and tax planning expertise out there, along with the most sophisticated vehicles and strategies.
The advisors win. And Provident gets a shot at becoming a much bigger player in the trust industry.
It’s ambitious, but that’s the way Fette and Helquist think.
“I consider Nevada the most progressive state in the country as far as trust law is concerned,” Fette says.
“We have some of the best attorneys in the country and one of the most progressive environments for setting up trusts,” she adds.
“I want Provident to be the most progressive trust company in the most progressive state in the country.”
Scott Martin, contributing editor, The Trust Advisor Blog. Jerry Cooper and Steve Maimes contributed to the reporting and research.
How Provident Trust of Nevada Went from Zero to $750 Million in 24 Months
Posted by Scott Martin in News on September 6, 2010
Founder Theresa Fette’s marketing machine seems to be generating income faster than the federal government can spend money. Her institution’s rags-to-riches story will inspire big and small trust firms alike.
Three years ago, tax lawyer and entrepreneur Theresa Fette was not expecting to become the CEO of one of the most successful trust firms in Nevada.
Today, she’s running Las Vegas-based Provident Trust Group, which has evolved into a $750 million trust company. The average trust account is in the $50 million range, the company is inking huge 1031 exchange deals and high-end lawyers from around the country keep calling in to place assets.
All of this comes from an opportunity that fell into place two years ago when Trust Company of the Pacific (TCP) lost its trust license after getting on the wrong side of the Nevada banking regulator.
When TCP’s owner P. Sterling Kerr, a prominent Las Vegas attorney, saw the writing on the wall, he contacted Fette and made a deal to sell all 7,000 of his company’s now-refugee accounts—crown jewels valued at nearly $300 million—to her group.
The problem was that Fette had no immediate home for the accounts. As a tax lawyer, she could not just pull a trust charter out of her hat, but after lining up a holding company and support from the Nevada banking regulator, within a few months Provident Trust was up and running.
With some of the best and the brightest people in the industry on her team and 7,000 accounts already in place, there was no question the day the operation opened its doors, it was pulling a handsome profit.
Today, Fette is not too shy about discussing the enormous success her trust firm has experienced after that jump start. Having more than doubled its assets under administration, Provident has also expanded its trust product offering to include retirement accounts, alternative assets and the highly sought-after Nevada asset protection trusts.
The Trust Advisor Blog asked Steve Oshins, one of Nevada’s best-known estate planning attorneys, if he had ever heard of Fette and Provident. He said no.
“In a small community of Las Vegas, you’d think we’d know each other, considering that we’re both in the same industry,” he says. “But she’s obviously smart because she contacted you to gain attention for her trust firm’s success story.”
Networking is key
Provident has kept a fairly low profile because just keeping up with word of mouth has kept the team busy.
“There really hasn’t been any advertising,” Fette says. “We network with members of the legal and financial advisory community and that’s our biggest source of referrals.”
One big plus with the advisors: As a strictly directed trust operation, Provident Trust doesn’t offer in-house wealth management services, so there’s no worry that it will try to poach client assets.
“We see all the trouble come when people try to dip their hands in too many buckets,” she says. “And how truly independent can a trustee be if you’re also managing money?”
Good point! And for many trust firms wrestling with conflicts of interest and unbundling trust fees to comply with Knight vs Commissioner, she might be right on the money.
Speaking of networking, Fette is one of the younger members of the trust community. A few months ago, the M&A Advisor Network flew her to Los Angeles for a black tie gala to honor her and other under-40 movers and shakers in the advisory world.
Flat fee for small accounts
We found one aspect of Provident’s business model especially intriguing. Under their self-directed IRA banner, they take relatively small-sized accounts ranging from $50,000 to $100,000.
This is not the norm for most trust firms, which tend to prospect for accounts north of $5 million. Provident’s key to success is charging these relatively low-maintenance IRA customers a flat $395 a year for providing custody service no matter how much—or how little—money is in the account.
Naturally, for a $50 million dynasty trust, $395 per year wouldn’t work, but Provident’s normal basis point billing structure ensures that taking care of those larger accounts remains a profitable enterprise.
When you work the math out, 8,000 accounts times $395 means you’re billing over $3 million a year. And in a world where retirement accounts are relatively dormant most of the time, both risk and turnover are comparatively low.
With ideas like that, coupled with the team’s stellar reputation, it’s clear that Provident will be well over $1 billion in assets shortly.
Scott Martin, contributing editor, The Trust Advisor Blog. Jerry Cooper and Steven Maimes contributed to the research and reporting.
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